Deu 4:30 "When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the YHWH thy Elohim, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;"
This is a tribulum. It is used in farming.
The farmer would stand on it while he is being pulled by an animal. It is pulled over the wheat, where it puts pressure on to help remove wheat from the chaff. Afterward, the wheat is then taken into a place to be tossed into the air and the wind blows on it an the wheat falls to the floor. Then the wheat is then taken into the storehouse. This would not have been done over weeds (tares). That is a waste of time. Tribulation is a pressing in, a time of distress, Time of Jacob's Trouble. So many people believe they will be taken out before Tribulation. But the tribulation is not for the weeds. The weeds (tares) are then taken and thrown into the fire.
Shalom!!!
You lack understanding. We WILL NOT see the teibulation. Believers WILL come to the faith after we are gone. These are the ones you think WE are. We are not appointed to wrath, and even in Gods wrath, his grace and mercy will still be available to all that call on his name.
ReplyDeleteJstacountryboy thank you for your comment but I respectively disagree. In Matthew 24 the chapter talks about the signs of the end times. If you read the whole chapter from beginning to end you will see all that is going to happen before Yeshua returns one last time. He does not come back multiple times, just once. Yeshua even said that many will say Yeshua is the Messiah and deceive many. Verse 5 and verse 24 are talking about deceiving but by different people. Verse 5 is explaining many will say Yeshua is the Messiah and deceive people and they will follow this person just because the person claims Yeshua is the Messiah. Verse 24 is saying "For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." Even the elect. People claiming to be the Messiah or who is a false prophet. It all goes back to Genesis 3:11 Who told you that you were naked? In other words, who have you been listening to?
DeleteIn verse 29 Yeshua says, immediately after the distress of those days we will see Him coming on the clouds of heaven. In verse 31 He goes on to say "He will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other." They gather His Elect after the tribulation. Is there 2 elects? I believe that is why Yeshua says "will he find faith on earth when He returns" (Luke 18:8). In verse 36 He goes on to talk about “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." The day or hour no one knows is a Hebrew idiom for Feast of Trumpets which is His second coming.
You are also confusing tribulation with God's Wrath. These are not the same. Tribulation is not God's Wrath. Tribulation we will all go through. God's wrath also known as the Day of the LORD is what His Elect(His Bride) will not see. In verse 29 it says, “Immediately after the distress of those days
“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken."
Now go to Revelation 6:12 where it talks about the sun and moon darkened. "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" His wrath doesn't begin until after the sun and moon are darkened. 119ministries does a great job of explaining/testing pre-tribulation that has been wrongly taught in the christian church. http://www.119ministries.com/teachings/video-teachings/detail/end-of-days-testing-the-pre-trib-rapture/
Thank you Leslie Lim. Blessings!
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